“They say there’s all these opportunities on campus to help you subsidize it, but they’re so competitive, and it’s so hard to go through the process of getting it approved that I’ve never been able to do it,” Ramos said.
Sophomore Olivia Sedita found it difficult to receive UNC internship grants as well. Although she receives financial aid — a qualification for many internship stipends through UNC — she was not offered a grant for this past summer, so she had to turn down a prestigious unpaid internship in Chicago.
“I can’t afford to run a $5,000 deficit,” Sedita said. “It’s not even like I’m not making money — I would be losing thousands of dollars, and I had to exclude myself from those opportunities solely based on the fact that I wasn’t getting money from them or from UNC.”
Instead, she took an internship in her hometown in New York, but it didn’t provide compensation. She worked a second job to cover her transportation expenses, pushing her to a total of 65 hours a week between her internship and job.
A 2012 study by the Intern Bridge reported 75 percent of students in unpaid internships work a second job. Like Sedita, sophomore Karley Wheeler is one of those students.
“I’m fortunate to have a family that could allow me to work in the family business to support doing this unpaid internship,” Wheeler said. “But I would have had to get a job, like a full-time job over the summer, if that wasn’t the situation.”
Senior Tori Wentz required two grants from UNC and a grant from Northwestern University to cover the expenses of interning last summer in Chicago. She said she couldn’t have done the internship without the grants.
“If I didn’t receive a grant, there was no way I was going to go because taking out a loan to work for free wasn’t an option,” Wentz said.
In the spring of 2017, Wentz participated in the Honors Seminar on Public Policy and Global Affairs in Washington, D.C., which required her to participate in a governmental internship. Her position did not pay.
The laws guiding unpaid internships generally do not require many government agencies or nonprofits to pay their interns. Even many federal government internships do not provide a wage — White House interns are historically unpaid.
The U.S. Department of Labor lays out six guidelines that for-profit employers must follow if they do not pay their interns. The main principal behind the law is how the intern should reap the benefits of the experience.
University Career Services Director Gary Miller said some for-profit employers who don’t follow these guidelines still do not pay their interns, and worries that unpaid internships exclude low-income or middle class students while privileging students who can afford to work without pay.
“I think that can be problematic for a lot of students and certainly students who have financial concerns — I mean honestly who can spend a significant amount of time and not make money?” Miller said. “That’s my big concern — equity, access."
Sedita said she saw evidence last summer of how unpaid internships can exclude low-income or minority students. There was a significant lack of racial and economic diversity in the law internship program she participated in.
“All the interns who I worked with were very, very similar demographics to me — middle class, white, went to schools that were comparable levels to UNC,” Sedita said.
Jay Eubank, director of career services for the School of Media and Journalism, said he thinks unpaid internships can limit media workplace diversity since they cater to affluent students. This lack of diversity can hurt the business model of the media organization.
“If I am writing for a newspaper or magazine or online site, then my audience is not just typically well-off people — it’s everybody,” Eubanks said. “If I’m doing public relations and advertising, I’m trying to reach not just well-off people — I want to reach everybody. If you have more people’s diverse viewpoints, then that just seems like that’s going to be a much better business model to have.”
Furthermore, paid internships tend to result in more job offers to interns upon graduation, which could further unequal access in the workplace. The National Association of Colleges and Employers in a 2015 study found that students who did paid internships were more likely to receive job offers from those employers upon graduation than students who participated in unpaid internships.
Miller said this job offer trend is due to the kinds of employers for which these students interned, not just the qualifications of the students.
“It’s not so much that a student is better positioned to get a job because they had a paid internship, but more it’s sort of an indicator of, ‘I’m working in a large enough industry and company that can both pay for my internship and also potentially hire me right after graduation,’” Miller said.
Sociology professor Arne Kalleberg researches social mobility and labor. He said internships provide valuable skills and experience, but unpaid ones reinforce systems of inequality for some students.
“I think internships — unpaid — are helpful in terms of getting work experience, but I think there’s a real inequality built in here because there are certain people who can afford to take unpaid internships and there are many, many more who cannot,” Kalleberg said.