In his own experience, Campbell could not tell if no one acknowledged him because of race or because he was one of the newer members of the team.
“It was almost like a twilight zone,” Campbell said.
Amert has also dealt with similar issues in meetings as a woman, but now makes her voice heard by raising her hand.
“I found it very successful — which fits with my personality, fortunately — to channel Hermione Granger and in the middle of a loud meeting, if they're completely not listening, I'm sitting there like this in a meeting full of guys,” Amert said, with her arm raised. “And eventually, they're going to be like, 'Why is she raising her hand?' They're all going to be silent and then I can talk.”
The panel also discussed the issue of assertive women in the workplace and how they are often viewed negatively. Pozefsky said in dealing with this, women should pick their fights and focus on building strong relationships.
“I've always made a real effort to have personal relationships with people and to get to know them as people and that helps a lot,” Pozefsky said. “It's really hard to refer to somebody with a very derogatory term if you've been to their house for dinner.”
In addressing the low number of women and minorities in computer science, Amert stressed the importance of becoming a learning assistant in introductory computer science courses.
“When I was an undergrad, I think almost all of my professors were male,” Amert said. “I think it's really powerful seeing somebody who looks like you in the classroom. My biggest recommendation would be to get involved as an undergrad (learning assistant). Put yourself in a position in a classroom where other students who are coming into the program see you and maybe they'll see themselves, and that will give them that motivation: ‘Hey, they could do it, I bet I could do it too.’”
Although many UNC students see learning and teaching assistants that look like them, the path in being a computer science major has not always been easy for Jimenez, who's a sophomore.
“It is challenging, but then there's also that aspect of, 'If I get past this, I know I can succeed in this course,'” Jimenez said. “I think the going does get tough sometimes. I think it's really rewarding at the end.”
Mantell, also a sophomore, said the community computer science students build in classes is a guiding factor for her success.
“I would not be as successful at all if it wasn't for Armando and some other comp TAs I'm friends with and other people in the class,” Mantell said. “It's kind of crazy because COMP 410, which we're in right now, has 300 people in it, but it feels like I know everyone. I never feel afraid to ask questions because they're my friends and they won't judge me.”