Column: Why I hate Duke

By Ian Williams
Updated: 02/09/12 4:53pm
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Editor’s note: Ian Williams, a 1990 UNC alumnus, was a columnist for The Daily Tar Heel in the spring 1990 semester. The column ran Jan 17, 1990- that night, the Tar Heels stomped the Blue Devils by 19.

He wrote a follow-up to this iconic column, Why I Still Hate Duke, in 2007. For more DTH coverage of all things UNC-Duke, check out our topic page here.

I recall a strange and hazy time about four and a half years ago, fretting in the sweltering heat of Hinton James 244, sitting on my bed while the rest of the residents scurried outside.

My suitemate from Brevard was parading his spittle collection, a particularly nauseating mass of his oral waste that he kept in three 2-liter bottles above the door. My roommate spoke in a dialect from Edenton that barely passed for anything on our side of the language tree, and the only things I had to wear in the 105-degree weather were corduroy pants from my goofball private high school. Tripping over bricks, showing up for classes in rooms miles away from where the classes were taught and getting lost by the water tower, I might as well have had a huge placard wrapped around my neck that said “Oh so clueless” and a number to call in case anybody found me peeing in his yard.

But there was a time before that. I call it The Time When I Thought I Wanted to Go to Duke.

For some unexplainable reasons having to do with planetary alignment or a chemical imbalance, I was set on going to that university in Durham. My high school in Virginia brainwashed us all into thinking that if we didn’t end up going to either Duke, UVA, or one of the Ivys we would surely end up stocking Pampers at Wal-Mart. So off I scuttled to those schools, all bushy-tailed and bated, hopin’ to impress some institutes of higher learning. By the time I got to visiting Duke, however, the luster of college had begun to dull into a bleak haze.

My tour guide’s name was Lorna- no lie- and she spoke in a loud, brash voice that seemed to shake the leaves from the cute little shrubberies. “And on your left is Duke Chapel, the centerpiece of our Gothic campus. Our university is considered by many to be the most beautiful campus in America.”

“Umm, excuse me,” I said, “Where do all the kids live?”

“The kids,” she said, in a voice of utter disdain reserved only for parents whose child has been very, very naughty. “The Duke student body mostly lives in the buildings you are looking at right here, with the beautiful Gothic architecture.”

“Well, how hard are the classes here? Would I be studying all the time?”

She fixed her cruel New Jersey gaze on my frightened 17-year-old soul. “Look, that’s totally assuming you even get in here at all. I know tons of people that would have given their left arm to get in here. And not only that, but- Oh, hi, Thad!” Some senior named Thad wearing Vuarnets and baggy khaki shorts ambled up with an evil Gleem smile.

“Leadin’ the kids around, eh Lorna?” he asked, and cackled like the frat Grinch.

“Yeah,” she giggled, and the two whispered to each other while exchanging muffled laughs.

I was herded into the cafeteria and stuck in a line for pizza, while Lorna went off into the crowd with some of her friends. A scowling guy slapped a piece of rubber pepperoni pizza on my plate, and as I walked across the room to sit down, I tripped on one of those Gothic little cherub things on the floor and sent my pizza flying 20 feet onto the sweater of a girl named Annabeth, a junior English major from Bridgeport, Connecticut.

“Oh my God!” she squealed, and every face in the entire joint looked right at me. Thad the sunglasses man started to clap, and half of the cafeteria joined in my humiliation.

Suddenly, I was back in third grade, and all the boys and girls were pointing and laughing at the picture I’d drawn of my family. Suddenly, I was sitting alone at the side of the blacktop while everyone else got picked for the dodgeball team. Suddenly, I was lying in the Iowa snow, getting my ribs kicked by five guys who thought I’d stolen their football. I had no escape.

And that’s when I decided to go to Carolina. I had never seen the place, had never heard of Chapel Hill and I picked Hinton James because it had a laundry room. After a while I grew used to the town- I didn’t get lost behind the water tower; I learned where Gardner Hall was; and I began to enjoy the company of my suitemate, despite his spittle collection. I also developed a taste for basketball, and during the games I noticed that we had certain heated rivalries- whenever we played one of those teams, I got tense and dug holes in the seat.

Now I realize that school spirit is a pretty goofy thing to some people, but I’ll tell you something: I hate Duke with an infernal passion undying. I hate every leaf of every tree on that sickening campus. I hate every fake cherub Gothic piece of crap that litters the buildings like hemorrhoidal testaments to imagined superiority. When I see those Dookie boneheads shoe-polishing their faces navy blue on television, squandering their parents’ money with their fratty elitist bad sportsmanship antics and Saab stories, I want to puke all over Durham.

So this is my request, boys of basketball: Tonight, I not only want you to win, I want Krzyzewski calling home to his mother with tears in his eyes. I want Alaa Abdelnaby to throw up brick after brick. I want Rick Fox to take Christian Laettner to the hoop so many times that poor Christian will be dazed on the bench with an Etch-a-Sketch and a box of Crayola crayons. I want Bobby Hurley to trip on his shoelaces and fly into a fat alumnus from Wilmington. Send Thad and Lorna home with their blue tails between their legs.

God bless them Tar Heel boys!

Published February 9, 2010 in UNC-Duke rivalry, Opinion

40 comments

dhooger
February 10, 2010 at 5:27 PM
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I was in school and working at the DTH when Ian wrote this. It couldn't have been more perfect then, or now, or anytime really. Thanks for republishing this historical artifact in UNC history. Wonder which New Jersey Walmart has the pleasure of employing Lorna today? Go Heels!


tarheel2005
February 11, 2010 at 5:09 PM
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*thnaks I am trying to understand how this represents irony. It is not "witty language used to convey insults or scorn," nor is it "incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs" that you read an article that had a purpose of showing hatred towards Dook after you had seen a game in which Dook happened to win.


Tar Hole
February 11, 2010 at 10:21 PM
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Alas poor Ian, you left out the part about your Duke Admission application being rejected. Hatred is one of mankind's most basic maladaptive coping mechanisms, although you probably figured that out for yourself at the Walmart register.


HateCarolina
February 12, 2010 at 7:39 AM
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Thank you for correcting my typing error. That is a good catch and I am sure comes up frequently in your day to day position as an administrative assistant (working under a, as you call us so affectionately, Dookie????). The irony in this one is that the article was originally published in 1990 and that same day/night you all had a big win, but now this article was published before the most recent game and you all got to watch us dismantle your team at the end of the game....in front of Hansblow nonetheless.


tarheel2005
February 12, 2010 at 11:05 AM
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*I am sure comes up frequently... I believe you have missed that I was being ironic in my previous statement. I was merely feigning ignorance in order to show that you have an incorrect idea as to what irony is. I first want to give you a little history lesson about the two teams in question. The article was first ran the year before Dook had back to back national titles, and UNC took the national title the following year. At this time either team could win at any time. It was great that UNC won on January 17th of that year, but there is no irony here. Now, I believe that your argument is that the irony is in Dook winning Wednesday night of this year. I can see how this may be comical to you, but that does not equate irony. If this were truly ironic, you would have had more hopes than most Carolina fans. We know that anything can happen in the UNC-Dook rivalry, but the expected result was not a UNC win. It was the hoped for result. I do admit that I thought my team could win this game, but tragically the expected result was a loss. This brings me back to the definition of irony. It is when the expected result does not occur. Obviously the expected result did occur and there was no irony in the situation. If you still choose to believe that this was ironic, an emphatic thank you is warranted from all Carolina fans across the globe.


Duke Student
February 12, 2010 at 5:12 PM
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I'm sorry, but I'm a student at Duke and just wanted to comment because this guy is completely making stuff up about us. First of, I haven't met someone nearly as cocky as the fictional person you made up at the school over the whole year I have been here (i am a freshman). Secondly, you can shut up about saying we all pay 50,000 dollars to go here. Most people at Duke are on financial aid, and some people are on heavy financial aid like myself (I go for free because I am so poor). Thirdly, Duke students are for the most part really nice. I'm glad that you are making stuff up about us that you hear on TV, but please actually visit the school in real life before you completely slander the school. I'm from North Carolina, got into UNC, and considered going. I was cheering for you guys for a while. I stopped when I realized how much you guys hate us. It's almost like some of you guys have some fantasy about us that only includes white people (only 50 percent of the student body is white), rich people (more than half of the people here are on financial aid), or elitist snobs (I guarantee you many people here got rejected from other schools, so they are far from elitist). Anyway man, UNC is a great school. I was close to going there--very close actually, especially because of their great journalism department which is shown very nicely by the Daily Tar Heel. Just please stop spreading lies about us. Please. For real, the amount of disinformation about Duke is disgusting. Good luck against NC State on Saturday guys. --An Evil, Undoubtedly Elitist, White, Rich, and Snobbish student from that Devilish school called Duke (for this is how the writer undoubtedly sees me)


UNCBrooke00
February 15, 2010 at 10:53 PM
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This is fantastic! I had a very similar experience when I visited Dook my junior year in high school-- I got a very general and distinct impression of snobbiness. After that, it was down to UNC or UVA, and thank goodness I had enough sense to become a Tar Heel!!


Bill L
February 16, 2010 at 12:38 AM
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HateCarolina, go away. Everyone knows you go to NC State and couldn't get into either UNC or Dook.


JasonMatthews
April 6, 2010 at 1:29 PM
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It's pretty obvious why people hate dookies. They're mostly Northern spoonfed private-schoolers temporarily in the south for a $500,000 degree while they harass 19 and 20 year olds trying to get from the slums to a possible future on the court someday. The Cameron crazies perfect mental torture and call NC wine and cheesers. Who has more dignity and way more fans from other parts of the USA?


alvindavis
April 25, 2010 at 8:08 PM
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Wow that sucks. I'm really sorry about that. I could see that happening on campus... Duke has a stupidly high number of scumbags on campus (scumbags being substituted for stronger words only because I don't know how you feel about swears on your site) but not all Duke students are so elitist. I'm here is because they're paying my way, and because Duke is relatively close to Richlands, NC. I agree that it may be less difficult to adjust to going to UNC but a lot of us really have no choice. My family is not from this state, and we're military, bringing in about 30 grand a year. I honestly couldn't afford to go to UNC because it costs about 10 thousand dollars a year to go there, while Duke offered to pay my way. The point is that though a great majority of Duke students really are the elitists that you hate, there are a few of us who honestly were just looking at the financial movement from 2006. While I was in high school there was an article somewhere that was talking about schools offering full financial aid for people without the typical incomes of average attendees. In 2006 Stanford enacted it, then in 2007, Swarthmore, Duke, and Harvard. I applied, and now I'm going to college for free. It's actually cheaper than UNC, and I can study whatever I want. Stanford: http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2006/march15/tuition-031506.html Swarthmore: http://www.swarthmore.edu/x16525.xml Duke: http://www.dukenews.duke.edu/2007/12/financialaid.html Harvard: http://www.fao.fas.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do This in no way excuses what you were subjected to, but please understand not all of us are such, whatever you want to call us. Again, I'm sorry for all of that, but I kinda hoped that this would shed some light on what is going on at this school. UNC students are not the only ones who hate those pompous dorks who speak down to others and who live in their own blissful ignorance of normal social interaction. Plenty of Duke undergrads are right there with you in hating the typical Duke student.


Heather
February 9, 2011 at 9:21 AM
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I love this column! I had a similar experience happen to me when I visited that school in Raleigh, and i too feel the hatred “with and infernal passion undying.”

GO HEELS!


Nick Hamden
February 9, 2011 at 10:09 AM
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I would assume that the bigger bad experience was the tour guide, yeah? I haven’t been to the dining halls here in a long time, but normally when something big gets dropped, people probably clap and cheer? Yeah?


tarheel13
February 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM
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This is so pointless. A tour doesn’t tell you anything about a campus or the students that go there. I’m pretty sure people would still be laughing in the dining halls here at UNC if the same thing happened with the pizza thing. My tour at UNC was generic and boring, so should I have held that against the school and all of its students. All we did was stand in the courtyard across from Franklin Street and told there were more classrooms further down and South Campus dorms are far away. And there are also plenty of rich snotty people at UNC too; there are everywhere! I like being competitive in sports and rivals as much as the next student, but making these things personal and making assumptions about the people who go there is just dumb, silly, and unnecessary. Someone I know even says they don’t like Coach K just because of how he looks and that he looks like a devil. Who cares what the coach of a team looks like. Any sports fan, or even moderate viewer of basketball should be able to recognize Coach K’s feats and how good of a coach he obviously is.


Duke09
February 9, 2011 at 6:11 PM
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I am a recent Duke grad, and I want to echo what someone said earlier about the difference in how Duke and UNC students perceive the rivalry. Duke students love basketball, and for some of them, social life in the winter revolves around the games. Their excitement about the two UNC games each year is fueled by the history and fame of the rivalry, and the fact that the two schools are usually first and second in the ACC. Take a look at the Chronicle and you’ll see how rarely we attack your character.

But having grown up in South Carolina and Virginia with loads of UNC friends, and having visited CH many times in high school and college, I know that, for most UNC fans, the rivalry is about some deep-rooted, passionate hatred for Duke and its students. Even as a grad, I’ve seen UNC grads treat Duke students unkindly in situations completely unrelated to basketball…that’s something we would never do to a Tarheel.

Read more …

I apologize for ranting, but after seeing tons of people post this article on Facebook, I couldn’t help myself. The editor’s note at the bottom is correct: this article perfectly encapsulates what the rivalry is about for UNC students. I just wish that wasn’t the case


TARHEELS
February 9, 2011 at 7:03 PM
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All you Duke fans/undergraduates/graduates sound pretty snobby and exactly as described in this article right now. Good arguments though…


UNC'96
February 9, 2011 at 7:29 PM
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Duck Fook, Duck Fook. Cannot wait to see Marshall take it to rat-face, so glad there is a Duke, to hate on. Wait until a Carolina player tries to throw the ball in-bounds from midcourt and watch what the doolies are doing. there’s your class dookies.


hate is ugly
February 9, 2011 at 8:10 PM
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This article is so full of hate that it is disgusting. I live in North Carolina as well, and anyone at Duke can tell you that we know our basketball rivalry is tradition and good hype that’s supposed to be FUN. Learn to separate reality from fiction and realize that if the most important thing you learned in college was to hate, then you have really missed out. Dukies do not even sink to this level of hate bashing and plenty of us openly praise UNC as a great school with great kids. But aside from basketball, we don’t devote our lives to hating an entire school. If your hate runs so deep, I would suggest you get that checked out.


mhondy
February 16, 2011 at 7:55 PM
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This column reeks of jealousy. Just as it did in 1990.


whyareyouhere
February 16, 2011 at 8:21 PM
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If you’re a dook fan, then why are you even reading articles on the daily TAR HEEL website? I do not go look at duke’s news articles and leave comments with my opinion, so why do you feel the need to? Go share your opinions with those that agree with them.


anonymous
February 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM
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sadly, even if you did read the chronicle, you wouldn’t find an article like this one. and there’s something called facebook where unc kids like to post this article too many times. i guess you’re right, i should just pretend unc doesn’t exist.


Peabody Awards
March 5, 2011 at 2:54 AM
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It’s really not that well written. Just saying.
—University of Georgia School of Journalism


Confused in the ACC
March 5, 2011 at 3:01 PM
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This is obviously an editorial and Duke students/alum shouldn’t be so offended about it.


Brian
March 5, 2011 at 3:42 PM
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I have my undergraduate degree from UNC and my graduate degree from Duke, and I can say that the dookies posting here are either ignorant or full of crap. On campus at Duke I had been harassed while wearing Carolina polos, my car was vandalized because I had Carolina stickers on it, etc.


woahwoahwoah
March 7, 2011 at 12:01 AM
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Take a deep breath!! This is just all in the name of fun rivalry banter…there is no need to defend yourselves in our campus newspaper…the day of the duke-carolina game we hate everyone that goes to duke solely because they go to duke, not because we know you personally or even claim to…don’t be so sensitive


Your Name
March 15, 2011 at 11:57 AM
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go duke

 
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