This is just sad. A bunch of whiny college students thinks their rights were violated when THEY WERE ON SOMEONE ELSE’S PROPERTY. Go do something productive with your time instead of wasting everyone else’s.

Acting shocked when you get a gun pointed at you after you break into someone else’s property? Only in Chapel Hill.

Also, the DTH apparently missed the “Kill The Cops” chant.

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Domestic terrorist organization? Settle down.

If someone were to occupy my residential or commercial property and refused to leave I would expect the police to remove them by what ever means possible. If you have to call in law enforcement that should be the first clue.

Of course OWS brings with it vandalism, destruction, violence, rape, disease, and murder. But it’s also the rallying cry for the liberal bandwagon, and anything liberal is just so hip and cool that young kids can’t resist. The reality of liberalism is anything but cool. It is truly scary to see so many American people ignoring destruction, violence, rape, disease, and murder while caught up in their group-think liberal frenzy in pursuit of Marxist ideals. It is scary to observe the true nature of liberalism unleashed.

They had a sentry on the roof…not really sure why people don’t see how they thought that could be a threat.

Sorry, Occupy, but you’re in the wrong here. When you break the law, there will be repercussions. When you chant “Kill the Cops” they will act out those repercussions with extra caution and protection. What were you expecting? Next time, TRY NOT BREAKING THE LAW, and there will be nothing to whine about.

I hope one of the arrested can help me understand this, but what outcome did they foresee if not a scenario where police would need to enter in the way that they did? I mean Shaw uses an example of being on a public sidewalk, but I don’t see why an analogy was used when she could have addressed the reality that she committed a crime by breaking and entering into a building. I’m not necessarily saying they should have planned for the “Seal Team 6” contingency. Aside from being successful in their demonstration, how else did this group of individuals believe the situation would have ended? Why was there an expectation of warning? In hindsight, I know they would have preferred a warning, but their testimony coupled with the rather incendiary chanting does not seem to imply that they would not have left the building without the use of force. Or, I guess the better question is whether they would have called the police’s “bluff” if given this warning they wish they had gotten.

A small army breaks into a building, covers the windows, and posts sentries on the roof and the don’t expect the police to intervene?

that picture single-handedly captures everything that is wrong with america right now

Occupy Wallstreet seems more and more anarchist by the day. They are constantly losing credibility with the public and for good reason. It’s clear who they are and what they are once you get past their bumper sticker quotes they throw around like, “we’re the 99%” etc etc.

Not exactly sure what they thought would happen, I hope these idiots don’t try and do anything too extreme. If you don’t like the following the laws and what the government is doiong, maybe you should leave. I hear Mexico has great winters.

The one positive that I can see coming out of all this liberal-fueled anarchy is that people with decent common sense will realize the folly of liberalism/progessivism/Marxism and the vile intentions of those prominent liberal politicians who seek to stoke this anarchy for gain in their political agenda. Don’t forget Obama and any “good” liberal leader supported and promoted these protests that have now materialized into violence, disease, rape, and murder in every major city across the country. Either these leaders do not have the mental capacity to understand that liberalism leads to such anarchy or else these leaders actually want anarchy to occur. Either way, these ideals and the leaders who promote them are the destruction of us all.

Wow, i knew UNC was a pretty reactionary campus, uick to join the Young Democrats but even uicker to condemn any kind of direct action – but this comment board is really just scary. It reads more like some right wing skinhead site. A group of peaceful people (they never attacked anyone, nor did they even harm property, they were actually fixing it up) take over a building, and are charged by assault rifle wielding cops who pin everyone from journalists to legal observers to an old lady to the ground with the barrels of carbines, and yall all side with the cops.

property isnt the only thing in the world. there are a lot of places where its considered wrong for a building to sit empty and vacant for ten years at a time, while large numbers of people are homeless, or basic services are being cut that could be assisted by the use of that infrastructure.

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“If I had been buying a pound of marijuana and someone had said, ‘if you don’t stop this you’re going to get arrested’, I would have not bought it.”

Derrrrrr. Are these people serious? What did they expect? Seriously. You break into someone’s property, you put up sentries on the roof, you cover the windows/doors, and you were masks with known anarchists present, you’re lucky they didn’t actually USE those rifles on you. THIS is the problem with America, when people stopped taking responsibility for their own actions and start pointing fingers at everyone else but themselves. Get a life and do something productive!

Using SWAT/tactical teams is standard police operating procedure when suspects have barricaded themselves inside a building. There is no controversy to see here.

Lee, you can stop pushing your conservative agenda now, and consider that these people are just some misguided young adults who neither represent liberals as a whole nor college students. The fact that you blindly equate liberalism with progressivism with Marxism with anarchy just shows how little you know about politics. Damn, some “conservative” people are so indoctrinated into the retarded political labels of America. And rape? Did I miss something, or is that just more fear-mongering?
For the record, I refuse to identify with any of the horribly convoluted labels in use in the American political atmosphere, just blindly believing that somehow your label is the best and the other represents all that is wrong with the world is the epitome of simple-mindedness and stupidity, frankly.

And before I get accused of supporting these protesters, I do not. I think they were out of line and naive to expect anything besides police intervention. I just don’t like seeing the reactionary right-wing “groupthink” that inevitably happens in these comments.

$1000000 to anyone who can show ANY evidence of Occupy sentries being on the roof at ANY point DURING the building’s occupation.

Can’t find any? Yea, that’s what I thought. Know why? BECAUSE IT’S PATENTLY UNTRUE.

Whiny college students? Domestic Terrorists? While your fiery rhetoric may win points with the Fox News crowd it does not substitute for argument. The real violence comes from the police and the state. Sure they were on private property but if I and a few friends decide to sleep in my neighbor’s abandoned shed, a task force won’t come and point assault rifles in our face. They would ask us to leave. @Lee: if you are truly interested in ending violence and vandalism then you should protest the wars. With thousands of civilians dead and maimed it makes any “violent” protest look supine

There’s a big difference between the threat that law enforcement would perceive from you and a couple friends sleeping in your neighbor’s shed and the threat that they would perceive if a large group of radical leftists took over a building as a form of protest.

Once again, if you break into a building owned by someone else, you have no right to polite treatment from law enforcement. To think that you do suggests an incredibly distorted worldview, and shows the extent to which nonsensical groupthink is impairing your judgment.

Based on some of the most reactionary statements here, it’s apparent those commenters haven’t read the DTH, WCHL, CHN, N&O, etc. articles covering the raid.

1) It isn’t a metaphor when someone says they were detained standing on a public sidewalk. About a dozen people, including two reporters, were detained outside the Chrysler dealership standing on the sidewalk.

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Seems like a very one sided story to me. Where are the opinions of students who don’t think the police were wrong? Keep your coverage fair DTH

Heh, an analogy and a metaphor are not the same thing. And I don’t think this situation can even be framed in the liberal/conservative argument. If anything, it should be framed in a anarchist/non-anarchist dichotomy as the actions taken illustrate the collision of the state with a force wishes for an end of the state. Of course the state will act in defense of itself through the use of its police, and the public will support this use because, liberal or conservative, the majority wants or needs the state, whether it be the conservatives needing the state to preserve its values or the liberals needing the state to enforce equality. I don’t know or understand why the anarchists think an open dialogue or debate can occur when they fail to recognize that their audience, the general public, does not agree to the central premise of their arguments/motivations (i.e. that a central police state should not enforce the law). Anarchists can characterize the majority as cowards by virtue of this need of an entity that enforces the law, but I again question the double standard of their situation. They seek the dissolution of a force that does not allow them to enforce the property rights of an owner, yet relied on the threat of that same force being used to protect them if the property owner showed and implemented his own form of justice.

These anarchists in particular showed a certain immaturity in believing that they could behave in a very threatening manner (70 people barricading themselves in a building and yelling incendiary comments are a very threatening force compared to say, a few friends hanging out in an abandoned shed) and not receive such a response just because they don’t agree with the present system. While I recognize this mentality that a wrong law or system should be not obeyed and should be challenged, I think the selection and timing of this particular target were relatively arbitrary to the degree that their actions did not demonstrate the all other possible avenues for change were ventured down. Where was the petition? Where was the meeting? Where was the demonstration outside the building? Where was the “enough is enough”? The police responded to the anarchists in this way not because their present action represented a massive threat, but because their present action represented the first, not last, step in achieving their goal. In this way, any escalation from an already aggressive action would have resulted in a real threat.

“70 people barricading themselves in a building and yelling incendiary comments”

Wow! Trolls are having afield day speculating it appears.

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