Four possible scenarios facing UNC football

NCAA investigation could have different outcomes

By Jonathan Jones
Updated: 07/17/10 2:57pm
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With the NCAA investigation of North Carolina football underway, the University and the program have decisions to make.

At least two rising senior football players had improper involvement with sports agents, according to multiple news outlets.

The involvement could stretch to players making improper deals with the agents while still juniors in college.

There are four possible scenarios that might play out with this investigation, which is being led by the NCAA’s director of agent, gambling and amateurism activities alongside three investigators.

1. The investigators find that no NCAA regulations were broken after their inquiry with the program.

2. The investigators find that the players received improper benefits or made improper deals with agents while they were juniors but find that the football program had no involvement in such dealings.

There would be no penalty for the University or the football program, but the penalty for the players would mean a loss of collegiate eligibility.

Per NCAA bylaw 12.3.1.1, a player would be ineligible for intercollegiate play if, “he or she enters into a verbal or written agreement with an agent for representation in future professional sports negotiations that are to take place after the individual has completed his or her eligibility in that sport.”

This agreement can be either oral or written, regardless of the legal enforceability of the agreement, according to bylaw 12.2.5.

This investigation, if it proves that only the players were involved, would be a streamlined process of the normal protocol and would likely be finished well before the type of investigation in Scenario 3.

3. The investigators find UNC football staff and players were involved in these improper deals with agents. Bylaw 10.1 states that a staff member “facilitating or arranging a meeting between a student-athlete and an agent” is unethical conduct.

Both the UNC athletic department and the NCAA have been mum on the investigation, with UNC athletic director Dick Baddour saying only that investigators have interviewed student-athletes.

Bylaw 32.1.5 states that involved individuals are “former or current student-athletes and former or current institutional staff members who have received notice of significant involvement in alleged violations.”

This scenario would punish both the players and the UNC football program. The involved players would likely lose eligibility and the program would face also face a punishment.

As reported earlier in the Daily Tar Heel, the NCAA’s goal is to finish investigations within 12 months. Should this investigation go into the 2010 football season and the players involved participate during the season, it is possible based upon precedent that the Tar Heels would be stripped of any wins that occurred while they played.

Not only that, UNC could receive the future punishment of being stripped of scholarships, like in the case of Florida State last year, or even a postseason ban like the University of Southern California’s two-year ban beginning this season.

This is the worst of the scenarios for the program, which leads to the final scenario — the best if it is proven that regulations were broken.

4. UNC does its own internal investigation alongside the NCAA investigation. Should the program find that the players had these improper deals, it could rule the players ineligible for competition before the NCAA investigation is complete.

Blowing the whistle on itself may save the program wins, scholarships, bowl games and most importantly, respect. By cutting ties with these players, the football program would likely face no punishment by the NCAA if it is found that no current or former staff members had knowledge of these improper deals.

This approach is similar to the route Oklahoma State took last season when it declared wide receiver Dez Bryant ineligible for competition. Bryant violated an NCAA bylaw when he lied to investigators about his involvement with former NFL player Deion Sanders.

OSU, through its own internal investigation, ruled Bryant ineligible rather than the NCAA, thus saving face and potential punishment for the entire program.

Published July 17, 2010 in Football, Sports

42 comments

john
July 17, 2010 at 3:53 PM
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It’s bigger than 2 players, plus a rising junior (Quinn) has had inappropriate relations with financial advisors.


Brett
July 17, 2010 at 4:01 PM
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you are a moron john. nobody knows any details. nice try douchebag.


Jennifer
July 17, 2010 at 4:24 PM
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Brett great comment!


get some
July 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM
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“Inappropriate relations with financial advisers”=Quinn received an ad for the Discover Student Card in the mail and, in fact, opened it.

Nothing will happen here. This is more than likely a desperate attempt by a rival like Duke or NC State (most likely State given the wuffies huge inferiority complex when it comes to UNC) to stop Butch from recruiting like a fiend. Guess what-it ain’t gonna happen.

Read more …

See y’all at the LSU game in September.


Hell_dan
July 17, 2010 at 9:46 PM
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Quinn, Austin and Little all got some money (not a lot) from the same agent. I used to be roomates with Austin and I know this for a fact. You’ll all see when the facts come out. Better then get caught now before UNC has to forfiet games next year. All 3 will be ineligible next year.


Brian
July 17, 2010 at 11:45 PM
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So hell_dan you used to room with Austin. Considering all the football players room together., that means you are/were a UNC football player right? So what football player are you? So far all football players have come out claiming nothing is going on. Yet you claim otherwise… my claim is… you’re full of crap.


Briian
July 17, 2010 at 11:49 PM
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Oh… and PS… its odd there were NO Dan’s on the UNC Football roster in any of the seasons while Austin has been there.


RamseesSeesNoEvil
July 18, 2010 at 12:34 AM
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get some – you are a complete moron. Three straight losses to NC State…who has the inferiority complex. At least NCSU doesn’t have to manufacture bogus banners like the Helms variant. Nice recruiting, by the way. UNC has truly become Thug U.


If you can't go to college go to State
July 18, 2010 at 12:39 AM
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LMAO at Ramsees, I feel bad for you that you are stuck at that athletic and academic wasteland known as NC State, where you likely major in Sibling Fornication and minor in Animal Husbandry


Tom O'Brien
July 18, 2010 at 12:41 AM
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Yes! Now me and my team might have a chance to be mythical state champions again this year!


Frank Beamer
July 18, 2010 at 12:44 AM
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Hope this is true! I’ve been getting tired of gettin’ my butt kicked on the recruiting trail by Butch this summer.


Butch Davis
July 18, 2010 at 12:45 AM
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Tom O’Brien, have you ever had a size 17 shoe planted firmly up your (rear end)? Because that’s what I’m going to do on November 20.


Frank Beamer
July 18, 2010 at 12:48 AM
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Sure is a shame about these accusations. If I didn’t know better, I’d say that some jealous rivals were throwing y’all under the bus. But it’s not like Butch has been owning my ass on the recruiting trail or anything…


David Cutcliffe
July 18, 2010 at 12:49 AM
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Tom, remember what it felt like to get bent over in Carter-Finley last year during that 49-28 spanking? Just wanted to give you a friendly heads-up that not only do I own you on the football field, I’ve got you by the balls in recruiting too. I’m just curious, how does it feel to be staring firmly up the asses of such powerhouses as Wake, Duke, ECU, San Diego State, Central Michigan, Rice, Buffalo, and Tulsa in recruiting?


Jim Valvano
July 18, 2010 at 12:51 AM
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Look man, if you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t trying. I’m the biggest scumbag cheater the ACC has ever known


Tracy Smith
July 18, 2010 at 12:53 AM
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If these guys get kicked off the team can I have their parking spaces? I have some “mobility issues”.


John Calipari
July 18, 2010 at 1:06 AM
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So the NCAA investigators are in Chapel Hill, eh? Well that’s certainly…convenient.


LeBron James
July 18, 2010 at 1:26 AM
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After a lot of thought and talking to my family, I’ve decided to take this investigation with me to South Beach!


Delonte West
July 18, 2010 at 1:29 AM
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Yo, LeBron…yo mama heading to MIA too? Just wonderin…


Kurt
July 18, 2010 at 3:06 AM
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Does a criminal admit his crime when he is first asked if he did it? Usually not but under the pressure of the ncaa and a lengthy investigation they are going to break. The best thing that can happen is the guilty players, which obviously some are. Austin deleted his twitter and cut off his cell phone. Trying to get rid of any evidence I’m sure. Anyway, the staff need to boot those players from the team that are guilty of any violations. That’s better than taking the chance of games being forfeited. The NCAA did not come to the campus just to say they didn’t find anything. They had been compiling evidence for a long time. I have heard since Austin and Littles recruitment they have been watching.


jeff
July 18, 2010 at 7:01 AM
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Poor little tarheels…overrated and have a bunch of criminals on their football team.. little butchie can’t beat nc state..although apparently state sucks… how sad is that? Poor tarheels basketball team was overrates last year two..so bad that the wear twins..who were absolutely awful..transferred out… now the football team is an embarrassment to the acc so theirbfans have throw shots at state and duke… how sad…


Thomas in Chapel Hill
July 18, 2010 at 11:15 AM
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When you see some players going around town tossing a lot of money around and driving cars that even some NFL players cannot afford to buy, then the question marks come into play. I think we need to have a clean program and those that took money which could be quite a few should be kicked off the team. I know at least six or seven guys on the team that are loaded with cash but come from ‘poor’ families. How is this possible?


Mr Trump
July 18, 2010 at 11:42 AM
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Somebody should be investigating why the UNC cheerleaders always manage to be the 5 or 6 good looking girls at the school.


Mr Donald
July 18, 2010 at 12:00 PM
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Apparently Mr Trump has 5 or 6 sisters on the UNC cheerleading squad. Unfortunately, they probably don’t share the same feelings you have for them.


M. Clark
July 18, 2010 at 12:15 PM
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Austin has been rumored to have had a lot of money for a while, so this is no surprise. I know there have been other rumors floating around on campus that Austin is not the only one but there are many others as well. Several have been told to delete their facebook, twitter, and other social media pages. If we want to keep our rep I think something should be done about this and they should be kicked out of school. If the coaches are involved as well they should be fired. Football players driving fancy cars just boils my blood when I see them and they act as if they are the kings on campus when they cannot even bother to come to class half the time and as to copy off my and other’s stuff to turn in. Just based on the rumors and the attitudes of some of them, I could care less what happens to them, they need to go, we will be much better without them.

 
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